In our web application, we using a Java applet to invoke MS.Word application by jacob jar e.g. Word to open, edit, and when it saves automatically it uploaded to the server.
Google Chrome will no longer support NPAPI, so soon we can not run our applet in Chrome anymore.
So, any suggestions for an alternative for the Java applet. We want to make the same experience for the user, just like before.
We have the same problem. With Webstart is not longer possible to do that communication. We are going to use Websockets between webstart application and browser. Our first attempt is to start a websockets server in the webstart and make browser connect to localhosts. If this is not possible for security limitations in the browsers then we are going to do it through the webserver, browser and webstart application connecting to the webserver and exchanging messages.
I can see 2 distinct possibilities.
Create a standalone application that "wraps" your web application using a technology such as electron. You can then do your browser to desktop integration as you like. This will require an install on the client.
Launch a webstart application (or it could really be any installation that happens on the client). It will need to start a webserver, or connect to a webserver and communicate via http.
I'm saddened by the loss of the Applet. It is a technology not easily replaced. And another methods seem somewhat like 'workarounds'. There is no easy, cross-browser way to break out of the browser sandbox and access the system.
For myself, the loss of the Applet has simply meant that automating some of these processes has become too difficult and it is just better to find an alternative way of achieving a similar end result.
A small note: If you are starting a local webserver, be mindful of security. It can be accessed by other processes on the system. Wouldn't it be fun to open word on anyone's system by sending a request to a port!
I want to be able to create an offline program that can use the browser as GUI. I'm not particularly good at GUI programming in general, and overall it seems that using HTML and CSS to structure a GUI would be the easiest.
Cross browser method is preferred, but I will most likely use Google Chrome
I need to be able to open an external program, possibly with command line arguments
Javascript seems like the best language for this, however as far as I know it isn't possible to launch programs with it.
This is on Windows 7.
That's a good idea and is done by a several popular softwares.
The best way is to make your offline program run a web server that the browser will be able to access.
ie: Your program starts a web server on localhost:5555 and then you'll be able to request http://localhost:5555/users in Javascript, from your browser.
Another approach could be using a UI framework like AngularJS + local storage. I'm working on an app right now that will be used online (connected to the web), online locally (connected to a local server that is not connected to the web), and offline.
You could build a single-page web app and let Angular manage all the "urls".
I want to write an Extension for the google chrome browser which reads some links from a website and copy these links into a file. I want to send this file via ssh to another computer in my local network.
How can I setup and use a ssh connection in my chrome extension?
Assuming you mean scp, not ssh, here are your options:
Set up a WebSocket proxy. Write JavaScript to send the XHR-fetched ArrayBuffer. WebSockets can go over SSL, so you'll probably be satisfied with that rather than implementing SSH in JavaScript (and then scp over that).
Same idea but an HTTP proxy. This would be pretty painful. See Web-based SSH for overview.
Write a Chrome App, thereby getting access to chrome.sockets. Implement SSH in JavaScript. See paramikojs to get started.
Chrome App, Native Client. This can actually work; see Secure Shell. Add scp functionality.
The Chrome-App-based solutions raise a separate question of how to get the web content. You might be able to use Chrome Apps webview. Or you can message the content between the app and a Chrome Extension.
There are probably other approaches as well. But you get the idea: you have a lot of coding ahead of you.
Is there a way from JS , we can detect how many and which browsers are installed on user's machine.Any pointers would be helpful.
Thanks!
No, there is no way to examine what software is installed on a given user's machine via a browser page using standard web-safe techniques.
To do so would require the ability to look outside the browser's sandbox and this opens up all sorts of security vulnerabilities which is why it is not allowed in the browser.
The usual work-around is to request that the user download an executable program that is built for their platform (Mac, Windows, etc...), run it and have it report back to you. But, this is an onerous step that many users will not do or will fail to do and many systems will attempt to warn/block because of the potential security isssues. It cannot be done automatically without significant user intervention.
you can't, unless you inject in a program to run in the user's machine, and do a system search and send back the data, which is the very definition of virus and trojan.
Let's say I've got a website that works better if a client has installed and logged into a desktop application. I'd like to be able to do 2 things:
Alter the website if they haven't installed the app (to make it easy for them to find a link to the installer)
If they've installed the app on a couple of machines, determine which machine they are browsing from
I'd like something that works on Windows and OSX, on any of the major browsers. Linux is a bonus.
A few thoughts:
Websites can detect if you've got Flash installed. How does that work and could it be used for both of my goals?
Could I just let the client serve HTTP on localhost and do some javascript requests to fetch a local ID? I know google desktop search did something like this at one point. Is this a standard practice?
Thanks!
You can register a protocol from your desktop application (see this). This can be used, for example, to open your desktop application with arbitrary data from the website. You could then have your desktop app send a HTTP request to your webserver, telling it what machine you are on.
You can have a browser plugin (activex for IE or Netscape plugin for the rest of the browsers) that can communicate with the application. When the webpage is loaded, it can try to instantiate the plugin and if it succeeded, it can use it as a proxy to the application. If it fails, then either the app is not installed or the plugin was explictly disabled by the user. Either way, your website should degrade its functionality accordingly.
Update: Forgot to answer your questions:
Flash does it exactly this way. Flash is a browser plugin that is created by the web pages.
You can have a machine ID generated at the application/plugin install time and your plugin can pass that machine ID to the webpage when it is created.
On the topic of using local webserver:
I would stay away from having a local webserver, mainly because of security considerations. It takes quite a lot of work to make sure your local webserver is locked down sufficiently and there are no XSS vulnerabilities that other malicious websites can exploit to make it do stuff on their behalf.
Plus, having a webserver means that either it has to run as a system-wide process, or if it runs as the user, you can have the website interact with only one user's instance of the application, even though multiple users can be logged on and running it at the same time.
Google Desktop Search suffered from both the XSS security vulnerability (though they fixed it) and the limitation of only one user being able to use it on a machine (I don't know if they fixed this one yet, though chances are they did).
Websites can detect if you've got Flash installed.
Actually, I believe a browser can detect if you have the Flash plugin for the browser installed, and webpages can offer "installed" and "uninstalled" option that the browser can choose.
Otherwise, you are asking for a means, by putting some code in a webpage, of being able to analyze a user's home computer, and report what it learned to you website.
Can you say Major Security Hole?
If you can pick a development environment for the desktop app, then check out AIR from Adobe. It lets you develop desktop applications using either html/javascript, Flash, or Flex.
It has API calls you can use from a browser based flash app to see if the desktop based AIR app is installed, what version, etc. You can even launch it and pass parameters from the web app to the desktop app.
http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/03/interacting-with-an-air-app-from-a-browser-based-app/
Websites can detect if you've got Flash installed. How does that work and could it be used for both of my goals?
it's quite a bit simple, your browser tries to render some additional files, with some specific formats such as flash .swf and I the browser doesn't find installation, then will be start downloading, or you will get the option to download that program.
Flash also uses AC_RunActiveContent.js please take a look at this js, people usually put this on their webpages
if (AC_FL_RunContent == 0) {
alert("This page requires AC_RunActiveContent.js.");
} else {
AC_FL_RunContent( 'codebase','http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave cabs/flash swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0','width','981','height','635','id','build5','align','middle','src','build5','quality','high','bgcolor','#ffffff','name','build5','allowscriptaccess','sameDomain','allowfullscreen','false','pluginspage','http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer','movie','build5' ); //end AC code
}