I need to get coordinates of selected objects in indesign project. It would be probably some javascript code to do this.
Goal is, to have all objects with their coordinates exported to xml or any other format I can work further with.
An idml export would provide all the info you need. However it would require a good understanding of IDML syntax.
A snippet export woukld provide good informations too, easier to read than the whole IDML stuff but yet limited per object.
A script can also output the informations you need but it am not aware of an existing one. Fact is that inspite the appearances, getting the "corrdinates" may need serious computations are items could be rotated a/o skewed thus affecting the global bounds.
You should investigate Adobe Scripting Forum. I guess this kind of needs have already been exposed there.
Related
Recently I started developing some extensions for Chrome. I am doing this in manifest v3 and vanilla javascript. I have managed to make my extensions work. However, part of the fun of creating them is in learning to code better. I have been wondering whether I am handling variables in a correct way.
I have some data that I like to access from various points in my extension. Some of it is loaded dynamically and some I set in the code directly, like this:
const myExtensionData = {
someData: [],
config: [],
links: [],
}
1) Is it a good idea to store often-used data in a variable like myExtensionData.someData? Is there a better alternative?
myExtensionData.someData is loaded from externally at some point in time. As I use this data in various functions, I have exposed it like this, so that I don't have to pass the data every time. I could use the local storage, but I have been holding that back as that requires another permission.
2) Same question, but this time with stuff that is rarely used (myExtensionData.config)?
The data in myExtensionData.config is also created dynamically, but the contents are not used as much. For example: I store whether one of my other extensions is also installed. If it is, I enable a button to access it from the popup. Rather single-use.
3) How about static variables? (myExtensionData.links)?
I keep some links I use for onUpdate, onInstall and for release notes. They change regularly, so I needed to store them somewhere. How about storing them in myExtensionData (I actually keep them in a global const at the moment).
4) Any pointers are appreciated!
I hope this is a worthy question. It's not very specific at all, but I am sure I can learn a lot here. I have searched for good practices/best practices, but they are usually outside the context of extension. If I have been looking at all the wrong places, please let me know.
Trying to answer my own question
I found some interesting stuff in this very old question. As I understand it, it's not a bad thing to store a variable in an object. Additionally, I like that it is also suggested to add some methods to the object as well.
Objects in JavaScript can be used as Hashtable
(the key must be String)
Is it perform well as Hashtable the data structure?
I mean , does it implemented as Hashtable behind the scene?
Update: (1) I changed HashMap to hashtable (2) I guess most of the browser implement it the same, if not why not? is there any requirement how to implement it in the ECMAScript specs?
Update 2 : I understand, I just wonder how V8 and the Firefox JS VM implements the Object.properties getters/setters?
V8 doesn't implement Object properties access as hashtable, it actually implement it in a better way (performance wise)
So how does it work? "V8 does not use dynamic lookup to access properties. Instead, V8 dynamically creates hidden classes behind the scenes" - that make the access to properties almost as fast as accessing properties of C++ objects.
Why? because in fixed class each property can be found on a specific fixed offset location..
So in general accessing property of an object in V8 is faster than Hashtable..
I'm not sure how it works on other VMs
More info can be found here: https://v8.dev/blog/fast-properties
You can also read more regarding Hashtable in JS here:(my blog) http://simplenotions.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/javascript-hashtable/
"I guess most of the browser implement it the same, if not why not? is there any requirement how to implement it in the ECMAScript specs?"
I am no expert, but I can't think of any reason why a language spec would detail exactly how its features must be implemented internally. Such a constraint would have absolutely no purpose, since it does not impact the functioning of the language in any way other than performance.
In fact, this is absolutely correct, and is in fact the implementation-independence of the ECMA-262 spec is specifically described in section 8.6.2 of the spec:
"The descriptions in these tables indicate their behaviour for native
ECMAScript objects, unless stated otherwise in this document for particular kinds of native ECMAScript objects. Host objects may support these internal properties with any implementation-dependent behaviour as long as it is consistent with the specific host object restrictions stated in this document"
"Host objects may implement these internal methods in any manner unless specified otherwise;"
The word "hash" appears nowhere in the entire ECMA-262 specification.
(original, continued)
The implementations of JavaScript in, say, Internet Explorer 6.0 and Google Chrome's V8 have almost nothing in common, but (more or less) both conform to the same spec.
If you want to know how a specific JavaScript interpreter does something, you should research that engine specifically.
Hashtables are an efficient way to create cross references. They are not the only way. Some engines may optimize the storage for small sets (for which the overhead of a hashtable may be less efficient) for example.
At the end of the day, all you need to know is, they work. There may be faster ways to create lookup tables of large sets, using ajax, or even in memory. For example see the interesting discussion on this post from John Reseig's blog about using a trie data structure.
But that's neither here nor there. Your choice of whether to use this, or native JS objects, should not be driven by information about how JS implements objects. It should be driven only by performance comparison: how does each method scale. This is information you will get by doing performance tests, not by just knowing something about the JS engine implementation.
Most modern JS engines use pretty similar technique to speed up the object property access. The technique is based on so called hidden classes, or shapes. It's important to understand how this optimization works to write efficient JS code.
JS object looks like a dictionary, so why not use one to store the properties? Hash table has O(1) access complexity, it looks like a good solution. Actually, first JS engines have implemented objects this way. But in static typed languages, like C++ or Java a class instance property access is lightning fast. In such languages a class instance is just a segment of memory, end every property has its own constant offset, so to get the property value we just need to take the instance pointer and add the offset to it. In other words, in compile time an expression like this point.x is just replaced by its address in memory.
May be we can implement some similar technique in JS? But how? Let's look at a simple JS function:
function getX(point) {
return point.x;
}
How to get the point.x value? The first problem here is that we don't have a class (or shape) which describes the point. But we can calculate one, that is what modern JS engines do. Most of JS objects at runtime have a shape which is bound to the object. The shape describes properties of the object and where these properties values are stored. It's very similar to how a class definition describes the class in C++ or Java. It's a pretty big question, how the Shape of an object is calculated, I won't describe it here. I recommend this article which contains a great explanation of the shapes in general, and this post which explains how the things are implemented in V8. The most important thing you should know about the shapes is that all objects with the same properties which are added in the same order will have the same shape. There are few exceptions, for example if an object has a lot of properties which are frequently changed, or if you delete some of the object properties using delete operator, the object will be switched into dictionary mode and won't have a shape.
Now, let's imagine that the point object has an array of property values, and we have a shape attached to it, which describes where the x value in this property array is stored. But there is another problem - we can pass any object to the function, it's not even necessary that the object has the x property. This problem is solved by the technique called Inline caching. It's pretty simple, when getX() is executed the first time, it remembers the shape of the point and the result of the x lookup. When the function is called second time, it compares the shape of the point with the previous one. If the shape matches no lookup is required, we can take the previous lookup result.
The primary takeaway is that all objects which describe the same thing should have the same shape, i.e. they should have the same set of properties which are added in the same order. It also explains why it's better to always initialize object properties, even if they are undefined by default, here is a great explanation of the problem.
Relative resources:
JavaScript engine fundamentals: Shapes and Inline Caches and a YouTube video
A tour of V8: object representation
Fast properties in V8
JavaScript Engines Hidden Classes (and Why You Should Keep Them in Mind)
Should I put default values of attributes on the prototype to save space?
this article explains how they are implemented in V8, the engine used by Node.js and most versions of Google Chrome
https://v8.dev/blog/fast-properties
apparently the "tactic" can change over time, depending on the number of properties, going from an array of named values to a dictionary.
v8 also takes the type into account, a number or string will not be treated in the same way as an object (or function, a type of object)
if i understand this correctly a property access frequently, for example in a loop, will be cached.
v8 optimises code on the fly by observing what its actually doing, and how often
v8 will identify the objects with the same set of named properties, added in the same order (like a class constructor would do, or a repetitive bit of JSON, and handle them in the same way.
see the article for more details, then apply at google for a job :)
I am new to Jquery and would enjoy a few leads to put me on the right track :)
Issue: I have a cart total price which is shown on another place of the page thanks to clone() and I would like to have this cloned price to auto-update each time the original price element is modified.
jQuery("document").ready(function($){
var $vartocopy = $('#totalpricemodule').clone(true);
$('.column42').append($vartocopy);
});
There are several approaches you can take from where you are facing your issue. However, there is one thing sure, JavaScript does not provide any magic that you require here and JQuery neither.
1. Move to data-centric thinking(reactive)
Long story short, your problem originates in the fact that you don't have a single source of truth(wiki) for price. It means that you are actually displaying 2 different prices which have the same value only because you mean them to. Those 2 prices have 2 representations in memory of your program and this fact is what causes all the problems you have.
Data-centric approach in your case - or reactive thinking as some people prefer - would be storing your price in JS variable/object/whatever(or generally speaking store it in memory of your JS program instead of DOM) and only at this one place. Now, whoever and whatever wants to display or use that value needs to access that variable/object/whatever.
I believe the misconception that many JS developers have is that JS code is not really a program, it's just a sugar coat over the DOM(and JQuery doesn't mitigate this). In my opinion it's wrong. One should use DOM for displaying things just as browsers do. So, store your data in memory, use JS for running code and display things via DOM.
There are many libraries out there who can make it all actually work without much difficulty. However, this is not without a cost. Firstly, you need to learn a new library, secondly you have yet another dependency and thirdly this makes your site more dependant on JS itself. Though, it's worth it. Even if just for the sake of being better programmer.
The library that I want to recommend is Vue. Not without a reason. Vue is easy to learn, lightweight, fast, doesn't force on you any "framework" and has decent documentation. Of course all of this is possible because core of Vue is not as feature-rich as other libraries but I believe it's perfect for your needs now.
With Vue you can hold your price in one variable and whenever you update that variable all places where it is used will be updated automatically. I think this is the magic that you want.
2. Create a function to update your value
Create a function like updatePrice which will update all places that need to be updated. How you will hold the references is up to you. If there are only several places you can just update them explicitly. Though, that assumes that there is only one price to display. If there are many different prices i.e. some products list then this gets only harder. In the end you might end up reinventing the wheel and create something similar to what Vue and other such libraries have to offer.
3. Eliminate problem without solving it
You can always decide that you only need this price displayed at one place eliminating the problem itself. Without problem there is nothing to solve.
Let's say you would get a bunch of .js files and now it is your job to sort them into groups like:
requires at least JavaScript 1.85
requires at least E4X (ECMAScript 4 EX)
requires at least ECMAScript 5
or something like this.
I am interested in any solution, but especially in those which work using JavaScript or PHP. This is used for creation of automated specifications, but it shouldn't matter - this is a nice task which should be easy to solve - however, I have no idea how and it is not easy for me. So, if this is easy to you, please share any hints.
I would expect something like this - http://kangax.github.com/es5-compat-table/# - just not for browsers, rather for a given file to be checked against different implementations of JavaScript.
My guess is, that each version must have some specifics, which can be tested for. However, all I can find is stuff about "what version does this browser support".
PS: Don't take "now it is your job" literally, I used it to demonstrate the task, not to imply that I expect work done for me; while in the progress of solving this, it would be just nice to have some help or direction.
EDIT: I took the easy way out, by recquiring ECMAScript 5 to be supported at least as good as by the current FireFox for my projekt to work as intendet and expected.
However, I am still intereseted in any solution-attemps or at least an definite answer of "is possible(, with XY)" or "is not possible, because ..."; XY can be just some Keyword, like FrameworkXY or DesignPatternXY or whatever or a more detailed solution of course.
Essentially you are looking to find the minimum requirements for some javascript file. I'd say that isn't possible until run time. JavaScript is a dynamic language. As such you don't have compile time errors. As a result, you can't tell until you are within some closure that something doesn't work, and even then it would be misleading. Your dependencies could in fact fix many compatibility issues.
Example:
JS File A uses some ES5 feature
JS File B provides a shim for ES5 deficient browsers or at least mimics it in some way.
JS File A and B are always loaded together, but independently A looks like it won't work.
Example2:
Object.create is what you want to test
Some guy named Crockford adds create to Object.prototype
Object.create now works in less compatible browsers, and nothing is broken.
Solution 1:
Build or find a dependency map. You definitely already have a dependency map, either explicitly or you could generate it by iterating over you HTML files.
Run all relevant code paths in environments with decreasing functionality (eg: ES5, then E4X, then JS 1.x, and so forth).
Once a bundle of JS files fail for some code path you know their minimum requirement.
Perhaps you could iterate over the public functions in your objects and use dependency injection to fill in constructors and methods. This sounds really hard though.
Solution 2:
Use webdriver to visit your pages in various environments.
Map window.onerror to a function that tells you if your current page broke while performing some actions.
On error you will know that there is a problem with the bundle on the current page so save that data.
Both these solutions assume that you always write perfect JS that never has errors, which is something you should strive for but isn't realistic. This might; however, provide you with some basic "smoke testing" though.
This is not possible in an exact way, and it also is not a great way of looking at things for this type of issue.
Why its not possible
Javascript doesn't have static typing. But properties are determined by the prototype chain. This means that for any piece of code you would have to infer the type of an object and check along the prototype chain before determining what function would be called for a function call.
You would for instance, have to be able to tell that $(x).bind() o $(x).map are not making calls to the ecmascript5 map or bind functions, but the jQuery ones. This means that you would really have to parse out the whole code and make inferences on type. If you didn't have the whole code base this would be impossible. If you had a function that took an object and you called bind, you would have no idea if that was supposed to be Function.prototype.bind or jQuery.bind because thats not decided till runtime. In fact its possible (though not good coding practice) that it could be both, and that what is run depends on the input to a function, or even depends on user input. So you might be able to make a guess about this, but you couldn't do it exactly.
Making all of this even more impossible, the eval function combined with the ability to get user input or ajax data means that you don't even know what types some objects are or could be, even leaving aside the issue that eval could attempt to run code that meets any specification.
Here's an example of a piece of code that you couldn't parse
var userInput = $("#input").val();
var objectThatCouldBeAnything = eval(userInput);
object.map(function(x){
return !!x;
});
There's no way to tell if this code is parsing a jQuery object in the eval and running jQuery.map or producing an array and running Array.prototype.map. And thats the strength and weakness of a dynamically typed language like javascript. It provides tremendous flexibility, but limits what you can tell about the code before run time.
Why its not a good strategy
ECMAScript specifications are a standard, but in practice they are never implemented perfectly or consistently. Different environments implement different parts of the standard. Having a "ECMAScript5" piece of code does not guarantee that any particular browser will implement all of its properties perfectly. You really have to determine that on a property by property basis.
What you're much better off doing is finding a list of functions or properties that are used by the code. You can then compare that against the supported properties for a particular environment.
This is still a difficult to impossible problem for the reasons mentioned above, but its at least a useful one. And you could gain value doing this even using a loose approximation (assuming that bind actually is ecmascript5 unless its on a $() wrap. Thats not going to be perfect, but still might be useful).
Trying to figure out a standard thats implemented just isn't practical in terms of helping you decide whether to use it in a particular environment. Its much better to know what functions or properties its using so that you can compare that to the environment and add polyfills if necessary.
Objects in JavaScript can be used as Hashtable
(the key must be String)
Is it perform well as Hashtable the data structure?
I mean , does it implemented as Hashtable behind the scene?
Update: (1) I changed HashMap to hashtable (2) I guess most of the browser implement it the same, if not why not? is there any requirement how to implement it in the ECMAScript specs?
Update 2 : I understand, I just wonder how V8 and the Firefox JS VM implements the Object.properties getters/setters?
V8 doesn't implement Object properties access as hashtable, it actually implement it in a better way (performance wise)
So how does it work? "V8 does not use dynamic lookup to access properties. Instead, V8 dynamically creates hidden classes behind the scenes" - that make the access to properties almost as fast as accessing properties of C++ objects.
Why? because in fixed class each property can be found on a specific fixed offset location..
So in general accessing property of an object in V8 is faster than Hashtable..
I'm not sure how it works on other VMs
More info can be found here: https://v8.dev/blog/fast-properties
You can also read more regarding Hashtable in JS here:(my blog) http://simplenotions.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/javascript-hashtable/
"I guess most of the browser implement it the same, if not why not? is there any requirement how to implement it in the ECMAScript specs?"
I am no expert, but I can't think of any reason why a language spec would detail exactly how its features must be implemented internally. Such a constraint would have absolutely no purpose, since it does not impact the functioning of the language in any way other than performance.
In fact, this is absolutely correct, and is in fact the implementation-independence of the ECMA-262 spec is specifically described in section 8.6.2 of the spec:
"The descriptions in these tables indicate their behaviour for native
ECMAScript objects, unless stated otherwise in this document for particular kinds of native ECMAScript objects. Host objects may support these internal properties with any implementation-dependent behaviour as long as it is consistent with the specific host object restrictions stated in this document"
"Host objects may implement these internal methods in any manner unless specified otherwise;"
The word "hash" appears nowhere in the entire ECMA-262 specification.
(original, continued)
The implementations of JavaScript in, say, Internet Explorer 6.0 and Google Chrome's V8 have almost nothing in common, but (more or less) both conform to the same spec.
If you want to know how a specific JavaScript interpreter does something, you should research that engine specifically.
Hashtables are an efficient way to create cross references. They are not the only way. Some engines may optimize the storage for small sets (for which the overhead of a hashtable may be less efficient) for example.
At the end of the day, all you need to know is, they work. There may be faster ways to create lookup tables of large sets, using ajax, or even in memory. For example see the interesting discussion on this post from John Reseig's blog about using a trie data structure.
But that's neither here nor there. Your choice of whether to use this, or native JS objects, should not be driven by information about how JS implements objects. It should be driven only by performance comparison: how does each method scale. This is information you will get by doing performance tests, not by just knowing something about the JS engine implementation.
Most modern JS engines use pretty similar technique to speed up the object property access. The technique is based on so called hidden classes, or shapes. It's important to understand how this optimization works to write efficient JS code.
JS object looks like a dictionary, so why not use one to store the properties? Hash table has O(1) access complexity, it looks like a good solution. Actually, first JS engines have implemented objects this way. But in static typed languages, like C++ or Java a class instance property access is lightning fast. In such languages a class instance is just a segment of memory, end every property has its own constant offset, so to get the property value we just need to take the instance pointer and add the offset to it. In other words, in compile time an expression like this point.x is just replaced by its address in memory.
May be we can implement some similar technique in JS? But how? Let's look at a simple JS function:
function getX(point) {
return point.x;
}
How to get the point.x value? The first problem here is that we don't have a class (or shape) which describes the point. But we can calculate one, that is what modern JS engines do. Most of JS objects at runtime have a shape which is bound to the object. The shape describes properties of the object and where these properties values are stored. It's very similar to how a class definition describes the class in C++ or Java. It's a pretty big question, how the Shape of an object is calculated, I won't describe it here. I recommend this article which contains a great explanation of the shapes in general, and this post which explains how the things are implemented in V8. The most important thing you should know about the shapes is that all objects with the same properties which are added in the same order will have the same shape. There are few exceptions, for example if an object has a lot of properties which are frequently changed, or if you delete some of the object properties using delete operator, the object will be switched into dictionary mode and won't have a shape.
Now, let's imagine that the point object has an array of property values, and we have a shape attached to it, which describes where the x value in this property array is stored. But there is another problem - we can pass any object to the function, it's not even necessary that the object has the x property. This problem is solved by the technique called Inline caching. It's pretty simple, when getX() is executed the first time, it remembers the shape of the point and the result of the x lookup. When the function is called second time, it compares the shape of the point with the previous one. If the shape matches no lookup is required, we can take the previous lookup result.
The primary takeaway is that all objects which describe the same thing should have the same shape, i.e. they should have the same set of properties which are added in the same order. It also explains why it's better to always initialize object properties, even if they are undefined by default, here is a great explanation of the problem.
Relative resources:
JavaScript engine fundamentals: Shapes and Inline Caches and a YouTube video
A tour of V8: object representation
Fast properties in V8
JavaScript Engines Hidden Classes (and Why You Should Keep Them in Mind)
Should I put default values of attributes on the prototype to save space?
this article explains how they are implemented in V8, the engine used by Node.js and most versions of Google Chrome
https://v8.dev/blog/fast-properties
apparently the "tactic" can change over time, depending on the number of properties, going from an array of named values to a dictionary.
v8 also takes the type into account, a number or string will not be treated in the same way as an object (or function, a type of object)
if i understand this correctly a property access frequently, for example in a loop, will be cached.
v8 optimises code on the fly by observing what its actually doing, and how often
v8 will identify the objects with the same set of named properties, added in the same order (like a class constructor would do, or a repetitive bit of JSON, and handle them in the same way.
see the article for more details, then apply at google for a job :)