What I have :
A C++ application server running, Ready to send data to client which is supposed to a HTML5 page or app.
What I want : Is there any way to communicate using udp port with HTML5 given both c++ server and HTML5 app are local to system ?
What I know :
Because of Security Concern, JS doesn't allow UDP port communication from browser.
Have read in many places, Answer is no. But answers are old.
Is the answer still 'NO' ?
Is there any work-around possible ?
Any lead is appreciated.
Yes, the answer is still 'no'. Websockets are TCP based. Note that a WebSocket is not a plain TCP connection, there is HTTP negotiation and a framing protocol in place. So you also cannot create a plain TCP connection in Javascript.
WebRTC is based on UDP, it may cover your use cases: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/datachannels/
Chrome now seems to have something: https://developer.chrome.com/apps/sockets_udp
It looks like UDP for web is still an active area of development and potential standards creation. Posting this answer to record some new info current as of May 2020.
The following whitepaper has outlined a potential path forward that satisfies the security needs for an "unreliable-unordered" protocol: https://gafferongames.com/post/why_cant_i_send_udp_packets_from_a_browser/
There are extensions to desktop Chrome and desktop Firefox that are in active development.
https://github.com/RedpointGames/netcode.io-browser
The way mobile browsers are designed prevents this kind of modification from being added at present (good security reasons again) but could be added down the road.
This is a major issue for gamers. See that link for a discussion of websockets, webrtc, quic (in chrome), and the author's netcode.io
You could alternatively create an additional python local server for bridging the data between your C++ application and webpage.
The html5 webpage connects to a local port that allows a web socket connection (use Flask/tornado).
The C++ application connects to a UDP listener on a different port. See https://wiki.python.org/moin/UdpCommunication to setup.
The python server basically forms a transparent data bridge between UDP port to websocket connection .
After reading all the links and comments, we can conclude:
NO, YOU CAN'T SEND THE UPD PACKAGE FROM THE BROWSER.
And you probably won't, because adding such a feature would be a giant leap backwards in web security.
You could possibly use a work around, design a program/script/server(I would use PHP, being a html client) to get the UDP gram from the server, if you would like I could help, I have worked on something similar.
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I'm writing a JavaScript Application that has to receive a huge amount of data from other users. It is not important if some of this data gets lost. Is there some way of using JavaScript WebSockets with UDP instead of TCP?
It sounds like what you're waiting for is WebRTC which is working it's way through the standards process. WebSockets, as other people have pointed out, run over TCP as a result of initiating with an HTTP Upgrade.
No, it's not possible to have UDP communication within JavaScript. Sorry.
Sounds like the question is meant for client-side UDP, but since I ended up here...
You can do UDP in JavaScript on the server using the node.js dgram package.
The WebSockets protocol is over TCP only as currently defined.
You could do UDP with Flash if you are willing to use a RTMFP (Real Time Messaging Flow Protocol) server.
If this question is still pending:
I found a project called JNEXT and there is an example using UDP.
The project itself seems to be paused but at least in Firefox it works (it doesn't work with Chrome and Opera).
May be it is worth to look for it.
I think you can leverage Silverliht 4 technology. You can create a Silverlight 4 application to communicate with server and then enbamdded it to html page. Then your JavaScript can build TCP connections via Silverlight 4 application!
You could write a WebSocket server to serve as proxy/bridge between TCP/UDP.
I'm playing around trying to find a way to communicate between two browsers on the same network to establish WebRTC without a server roundtrip (no STUN/ICE/TURN). Basically an alternative to the approach found here, where the "handshake" is done via copy/mail/pasting.
After sifting through all the cross-browser-communication examples I could find (like via cookies or WebTCP) plus a bunch of questions on SO (like here), I'm back to wondering a simple thing:
Question:
If Alice and Bob visit the same page foo.html while on the same network and they know each others' internal assigned IP addresses, are there any ways they can communicate purely with what is available on the browser?
This excludes non-standard APIs like Mozilla TCP_Socket_API, but other than that all "tricks" are allowed (img tags, iframes, cookies, etc.).
I'm just curious if I can listen to someone on the same network "broadcasting" something via the browser at all.
Edit:
foo.html will be on static server, no logic, no ICE, no shortcut.
Edit:
Still not a solution but a websocket server as Chrome extension comes closer. Example here: almost pure browser serverless WebRTC
Yes, you can establish a direct connection between two browsers over the local network using WebRTC. It requires the use of ICE, but that does not mean that an outside STUN or TURN server is needed. If the browsers are on the same network, ICE will succeed with only the local candidates of each browser.
STUN/TURN is needed only in order to guarantee that two endpoints can establish a connection even when they are in different networks and behind NATs.
In fact, if you use most of the WebRTC example applications (such as apprtc) with two browsers connected in a local network, ICE is most likely to select and use the pair of local addresses. In this case a channel allocation on a TURN server will be made, but it will not get used.
In your WebRTC application, you can disable the use of STUN/TURN by passing empty iceServers when you create the PeerConnection.
While the MDN documentation lists WebSocketServer as a client API, I don't think this is accurate (maybe they wanted to document there how to write a server).
At the moment, I know no standard way to create a server socket on a web browser. I know a couple of attacks to scan the local network but most of them rely on an active server outside the network, that is you connect to a server and get JavaScript back which opens a WebSocket connection. Via that connection, I can take full control over the client and have it open more WebSockets with local IP addresses to scan the internal network.
If internal web sites don't implement CORS correctly (see here), I can access all internal web sites where the current user is currently logged in. That is a devious attack vector which allows external attackers to browser internal documents without cracking anything. This page has a demo of the attack.
Even Flash won't let you create a server socket.
If you allow a Java applet and the Java version on the client is very old or the user blindly clicked "OK", then you can create server sockets.
Related:
Socket Server in Javascript (in browsers)?
This could be explained easily. The answer is it's not possible. In order for alice and bob to communicate at all without a third-party, at least one of them needs to be listening for incoming connections. Not possible using a standard web browser alone.
You can take a look at this
https://github.com/jed/browserver-client
I think that you can easily create an http server with javascript and send messages from one browser to another
With Nodejs you can achieve the same.
There is a server I need to talk to that publishes a protocol over TCP/IP for querying data from a database and listening on a socket to receive notifications when data is updated. The sever guys provide a Java API which uses this TCP protocol. This means I could easily write a Swing App to talk to this server.
I would like a browser based solution. As the protocol is known to me, could I do this in JavaScript? My app will have to display the data in a table. I have heard of Web Sockets but I'm not sure if it will allow this two way communication. Is it feasible? Is there a better way that is cross platform and will work in most browsers? Should I be considering a Java Swing based solution that runs inside a browser?
EDIT: What about changing the code in my C++ server to add an additional interface that my Javascript code can communicate directly with it?
The WebSocket protocol differs from TCP/IP sockets. You will have to write something to link them together.
You can do this perfectly well in JavaScript: use Node.js. There's enough tutorials to be found on the subject. The best way to link it to your in-browser JS is through Socket.IO.
Create a Node.js server that connects to the api
Make the server talk to your web app
Use it :)
This will work cross-platform and cross-browser (Socket.IO can use/emulate websockets even on IE6(!!)). You'll have to run a server-app (the Node.js app) though.
My personal opinion is that if you want a web/browser based solution, you should use native technology, and not Java.
Hope this helps :)
Are there websocket libraries (like ajax for jquery) I can use on the browsers with fallback to ajax long polling?
I found that Socket.IO implements a weird, arbitrary layer over the WebSocket protocol. I'd rather just pass raw data back and forth, so for my project, I went with web-socket-js.
web-socket-js works similarly to Socket.IO in that it reverts to using Flash sockets if WebSocket support is unavailable. Thus, it works in all the major browsers that support Flash (I tested this myself).
Just make sure you open port 843 in your firewall or you'll get a Flash security policy error. You'll probably need a script to listen on port 843 as well...I used em-websocket for the socket server, and in its readme I believe is a link to a Perl script that provides this.
Library with WebSockets support and fallback long polling solution would probably depend also on server side technology and not only browser client. Try to look at socket.io for example.
I have been using SignalR for the last several months, and it is awesome. It does what Socket.IO does, but maybe even better. It degrades as follows: Web Sockets, Server Sent Events, Forever Frame, AJAX long polling. Only works with .NET though.
https://github.com/SignalR/SignalR/wiki/Faq
Yes, you'll need server support for that as well. Kaazing WebSocket Gateway supports a very fast emulation/Polyfill. If you have a plugin like Flash it may use that (opportunistic optimization), but if you don't it emulates WebSocket with encrypted streaming, which is a lot more efficient than long polling. It comes with SSE and Cross Document Messaging support and emulation as well, as well as many higher level protocol abstractions (JMS/Stomp, XMPP, etc.)
Union Server has WebSocket support with fallback to comet-style AJAX communication. Union is a platform for creating connected applications, such as online multiplayer games.
http://www.unionplatform.com
We have a network camera. It has an HTTP server to provides the current image. There is also a Telnet interface for controlling the camera (i.e. trigger, focus, etc.). I would like to add an HTML page to the camera that would provide a simple interface (we already have client software we write). I can "GET" the image and display that, but I would also like to have controls that use the Telnet interface to control the camera. So a button might have JavaScript code behind it that connects to the camera via Telnet (logs in) and issues the command to trigger the camera.
I know that JavaScript/browsers support connecting to the same host via XMLHttpRequest. In this case I would be looking to open a socket on port 23 and send text. I also know that I can do this through Flash, Java, or some other technology, but I would prefer to use JavaScript only. If that is possible.
Thomaschaaf is correct, while HTML5 introduces websockets you'll find they still require special server support as they post HTTP style information upon opening the socket:
JS/HTML5 WebSocket: Connect without HTTP call
The best way, currently, to have true sockets is to either
use a flash or Java component on the webpage that does the actual socket work.
use a proxy server with websockets that can handle the additional protocol overhead of websockets and connect to the real tcp/ip port with plain sockets.
The jsterm example Matt linked does the latter, and if your webcans are behind a firewall it will not work in your situation without also implementing another server.
There are libraries that implement the first method, two are linked here for convenience, many others can be found using a search engine:
http://stephengware.com/proj/javasocketbridge/ (Java)
http://matthaynes.net/blog/2008/07/17/socketbridge-flash-javascript-socket-bridge/ (Flash)
jsTerm is an HTML5 implementation of a Telnet client.
You'll need a browser that supports HTML5 WebSockets. WebSockets is the only method of doing non-HTTP requests with pure JavaScript.
Currently there is no way to do socket connections with JavaScript only.
But what you are searching for is a socket connection ;)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XML_Extras
If I interpret the question liberally as "is there a remote connectivity library for Javascript", then the answer is yes (quoting from https://xtermjs.org/):
A web based SSH2 client using xterm.js, socket.io, and ssh2: https://github.com/billchurch/WebSSH2
HTML5 Based SSHv2 Web Client with E2E encryption utilising xterm.js, SJCL & websockets: https://github.com/stuicey/SSHy
I've tried WebSSH2 with node.js briefly, it worked for me - I managed to connect to a Linux-based server with it.
(I know this probably doesn't help the OP but this is a 7-year old question anyway. Maybe it helps others who are needing an answer to a similar problem.)