How does WebRTC handle many-to-many connections? - javascript

if I am in a room with other 7 users, I am wondering if WebRTC force every user to establish a connection to each one of other participants.
Obviously it would consume something like 7kb/s*7 download and even upload, and many connection cannot handle this if their connection is already busy.
Instead with some kind of media relay the bandwidth usage would be only 7kb/s but you would lose bandwidth adaptation between peers.
Do you know any media relay, or way to solve this problem? is TURN server ( like https://code.google.com/p/rfc5766-turn-server/ ) suitable for this kind of job ( multicast included )?

A TURN server works as a fallback relay server in order to enable connectivity when direct peer-to-peer connectivity is impossible because of firewalls or other network issues. (More information here: press P for speaker notes.) TURN servers are not designed for media distribution.
A Multipoint Control Unit could solve the problem you refer to: there's an example topology for this here. As stated in the notes for that slide:
This is a server that's made specifically to do distribution of media,
and can handle large numbers of participants; it can also do smart
things like selective stream forwarding, mixing of the audio or video,
or recording.

Have a look at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-06 for details about WebRTC use cases. The authors mention a multi-user conferencing solution that uses a central server. So the best solution of establishing multi-user A/V conferences using WebRTC is to have such a central server that does the audio mixing and A/V "broadcasting" to all peers.
This circumvents the bandwidth problems you mention in your question. Currently a whole bunch of start-ups and established service providers are working on WebRTC-based conferencing solutions, just let your favourite web search engine pick some examples.
A TURN server alone doesn't suffice since TURN is only used to relay data for hosts that can't be reached directly (possibly because of firewalls). TURN servers don't terminate WebRTC connections.

Yes, you would have to establish separate connections to each of your peers. In order to solve this you could use a media server like kurento.
With a media server every peer would connect to the media server, the server would then combine the video streams from your peers into one by placing them side by side and then send you the new stream. This saves peers the trouble of having to download streams from every other peer.

You are right that bandwidth adaption between peers is an issue.
A TURN server does not solve this issue since all it does is provide a stable endpoint, typically for people behind very restrictive NAT setups.
The solution to this issue lies in scalable video codecs. These video codecs are specifically designed to solve the multi-way video conferencing problem. H.264/SVC is one such scalable codec and it is currently used by Google+ Hangouts. VP8 also has temporal and spatial scalability and is used in WebRTC.
The scalable video codecs are designed so that parts of the stream, typically individual UDP packets, can be removed from the stream while preserving the ability to decode the video at a lower quality. At least three types of scalabilities are used:
Temporal, in which the frames-per-second is reduced.
Spatial, where the number of pixels is reduced.
Quality, where the color resolutios is reduced.
If you implement a video conferencing server, you can go into the VP8 stream at a lower level than the WebRTC-level, do the necessary changes to each video stream, and solve the bandwidth adaption issue.

If the question still stands , here is my suggestion :
Based on your SIP server install a RTP proxy software such as if you are using kamailio couple it with rtpengine.

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How can I mix incoming WebRTC audio streams into a single stream on a server?

I'm working on a project which involves building an audio-conferencing app for the web. Currently my working system uses a WebSocket server to negotiate connections between peers, which can then stream audio directly to one another. However, I wish to implement the server as its own client/peer, which will receive all incoming audio streams, "mix" them into a single source/stream, and then stream it to all peers individually. The goal is to avoid direct peer-to-peer connections between user connections.
Perhaps a more simple question would be how I can accomplish the concept of the given figure, the green squares being RTCPeerConnections, and the server "forwarding" the incoming streams to the recipient?
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How can I accomplish this, and is the concept feasible in regards to system resources of the server?
Thanks.
You can use kurento. Its based on webRTC and its Media Server features include group communications, transcoding, recording, mixing, broadcasting and routing of audiovisual flows.
The concept you are looking for is called Multi Conferencing Unit (MCU). MCU is not part of standard WebRTC. WebRTC is peer-to-peer only.
There are several media server solution that offer the MCU functionality. kurento, as suggested by Milad, is one options. Others examples are Jitsi Videobridge or Janus.
A more recent approach you might want to consider is SFU (Selective Forwarding Unit).

Buffering/Syncing remote (webRTC) mediaStreams

I am currently building a webRTC application that streams audio (the classic server, client, one to many model). Communication and signaling is done through sockets.
The problem I have found is that there is a lot of variability when streaming to smart devices (mainly due to varying processing power), even on a local network.
Hence, I am trying to add functionality that syncs the stream between devices. At a high level I was thinking of potentially, buffering the incoming stream, once all devices are connected the last peer to connect will share something that indicates where that specific peer's buffer starts and all peers will play the buffer from that position.
Does this sound possible? Is there a better way to sync up remote streams? If I was to go along this path, how would I go about buffering a remote MediaStream object (or data from a BlobURL) potentially into some form of array which can be used to identify a common starting location between the streams?
Would I potentially use the Javascript AudioContext api?
I have also looked at NTP protocols and other syncing mechanism but I couldn't find how to apply them to in the context of a webRTC application.
Any help, pointers, or direction would be greatly appreciated.

WebRTC - help me understand a few concepts

I'm new to WebRTC, actually just heard about it a few days ago and I've read a lot about it. However, I still have a few questions.
What do I need to explore the usage of WebRTC? E.g.: do I need a server, any libraries etc.? I'm aware that new version of Chrome and Firefox support WebRTC, but besides these two browsers, is there anything else that is necessary?
What is the main purpose of WebRTC when addressing practical usage? To video chat? Audio chat? What about text-chatting?
Does WebRTC need a server for any kind of browser-to-browser interaction? I've seen some libraries, such as PeerJS that don't explicitly mention any kind of server... so is it possible to connect two clients directly? There's also a PeerServer, which supposedly helps broker connections between PeerJS clients. Can I use WebRTC without such a server?
What are the most commonly used libraries for WebRTC?
What's a good starting point for someone who's totally new in WebRTC? I'd like to setup a basic google-talk kind of service, to chat with one person.
Thank you so much guys.
You can find many docs here E.g. this one, this one and this one!
You can find a few libraries here.
A simple multi-user WebRTC app needs following things:
Signalling server to exchange sdp/ice/etc. ---- e.g. socket.io/websockets/xmpp/sip/XHR/etc.
ICE server i.e. STUN and/or TURN; to make sure Firewalls doesn't block UDP/TCP ports
JavaScript app to access/invoke RTCWeb JavaScript API i.e. RTCPeerConnection.
It just takes a few minutes to setup WebRTC peer-to-peer connection. You can setup peer-to-server connections as well where media-servers can be used to transcode/record/merge streams; or to relay to PSTN networks.
WebRTC DataChannels can be used for gaming, webpage synchronizing; fetching static contents, peer-to-peer or peer-to-server data transmission, etc.
What do I need to explore the usage of WebRTC? E.g.: do I need a
server, any libraries etc.? I'm aware that new version of Chrome and
Firefox support WebRTC, but besides these two browsers, is there
anything else that is necessary?
WebRTC it is JavaScript API for web developers which can be used for audio and video streaming.
But there are 2 notices:
You need a signaling path.
For example, if your first user is Alice using Firefox and second user is Bob using Chrome,
they should negotiate used codecs and streams.
WebRTC does not offer the signalling implementation. So you need to implement the signaling yourself. It is quite simple. You need to send SDP(stream config) to participant and receive an SDP answer. You can use plain HTTP via apahe server or use Websockets or any other transport to negotiate SDP.
So, it seems you need an intermediary signaling server workning with websockets or HTTP/HTTPS.
Once you negotiated the streams you are sending your audio or video stream, but the distanation user might have a simmetric NAT. It means that you stream will not be delivered to the target user. In such situation you need a TURN server to traverse the NAT.
Finally you will need 2 server-side logic items:
1) Signaling server
2) TURN or proxy server
To start, take a look Web Call Server.
The server implements HTML5 Websocket signaling and SRTP proxying as a TURN server.
You can also learn the webrtc application open source code.
First steps:
1. Download the signaling and streaming server.
2. Download and unzip web client.
3. Start the web client and debug javascript code to learn more how webrtc works.

WebRTC - scalable live stream broadcasting / multicasting

PROBLEM:
WebRTC gives us peer-to-peer video/audio connections. It is perfect for p2p calls, hangouts. But what about broadcasting (one-to-many, for example, 1-to-10000)?
Lets say we have a broadcaster "B" and two attendees "A1", "A2". Of course it seems to be solvable: we just connect B with A1 and then B with A2. So B sends video/audio stream directly to A1 and another stream to A2. B sends streams twice.
Now lets imagine there are 10000 attendees: A1, A2, ..., A10000. It means B must send 10000 streams. Each stream is ~40KB/s which means B needs 400MB/s outgoing internet speed to maintain this broadcast. Unacceptable.
ORIGINAL QUESTION (OBSOLETE)
Is it possible somehow to solve this, so B sends only one stream on some server and attendees just pull this stream from this server? Yes, this means the outgoing speed on this server must be high, but I can maintain it.
Or maybe this means ruining WebRTC idea?
NOTES
Flash is not working for my needs as per poor UX for end customers.
SOLUTION (NOT REALLY)
26.05.2015 - There is no such a solution for scalable broadcasting for WebRTC at the moment, where you do not use media-servers at all. There are server-side solutions as well as hybrid (p2p + server-side depending on different conditions) on the market.
There are some promising techs though like https://github.com/muaz-khan/WebRTC-Scalable-Broadcast but they need to answer those possible issues: latency, overall network connection stability, scalability formula (they are not infinite-scalable probably).
SUGGESTIONS
Decrease CPU/Bandwidth by tweaking both audio and video codecs;
Get a media server.
As it was pretty much covered here, what you are trying to do here is not possible with plain, old-fashionned WebRTC (strictly peer-to-peer). Because as it was said earlier, WebRTC connections renegotiate encryption keys to encrypt data, for each session. So your broadcaster (B) will indeed need to upload its stream as many times as there are attendees.
However, there is a quite simple solution, which works very well: I have tested it, it is called a WebRTC gateway. Janus is a good example. It is completely open source (github repo here).
This works as follows: your broadcaster contacts the gateway (Janus) which speaks WebRTC. So there is a key negotiation: B transmits securely (encrypted streams) to Janus.
Now, when attendees connect, they connect to Janus, again: WebRTC negotiation, secured keys, etc. From now on, Janus will emit back the streams to each attendees.
This works well because the broadcaster (B) only uploads its stream once, to Janus. Now Janus decodes the data using its own key and have access to the raw data (that it, RTP packets) and can emit back those packets to each attendee (Janus takes care of encryption for you). And since you put Janus on a server, it has a great upload bandwidth, so you will be able to stream to many peer.
So yes, it does involve a server, but that server speaks WebRTC, and you "own" it: you implement the Janus part so you don't have to worry about data corruption or man in the middle. Well unless your server is compromised, of course. But there is so much you can do.
To show you how easy it is to use, in Janus, you have a function called incoming_rtp() (and incoming_rtcp()) that you can call, which gives you a pointer to the rt(c)p packets. You can then send it to each attendee (they are stored in sessions that Janus makes very easy to use). Look here for one implementation of the incoming_rtp() function, a couple of lines below you can see how to transmit the packets to all attendees and here you can see the actual function to relay an rtp packet.
It all works pretty well, the documentation is fairly easy to read and understand. I suggest you start with the "echotest" example, it is the simplest and you can understand the inner workings of Janus. I suggest you edit the echo test file to make your own, because there is a lot of redundant code to write, so you might as well start from a complete file.
Have fun! Hope I helped.
As #MuazKhan noted above:
https://github.com/muaz-khan/WebRTC-Scalable-Broadcast
works in chrome, and no audio-broadcast yet, but it seems to be a 1st Solution.
A Scalable WebRTC peer-to-peer broadcasting demo.
This module simply initializes socket.io and configures it in a way
that single broadcast can be relayed over unlimited users without any
bandwidth/CPU usage issues. Everything happens peer-to-peer!
This should definitely be possible to complete.
Others are also able to achieve this: http://www.streamroot.io/
AFAIK the only current implementation of this that is relevant and mature is Adobe Flash Player, which has supported p2p multicast for peer to peer video broadcasting since version 10.1.
http://tomkrcha.com/?p=1526.
"Scalable" broadcasting is not possible on the Internet, because the IP UDP multicasting is not allowed there. But in theory it's possible on a LAN. The problem with Websockets is that you don't have access to RAW UDP by design and it won't be allowed.
The problem with WebRTC is that it's data channels use a form of SRTP, where each session has own encryption key. So unless somebody "invents" or an API allows a way to share one session key between all clients, the multicast is useless.
There is the solution of peer-assisted delivery, meaning the approach is hybrid. Both server and peers help distribute the resource. That's the approach peer5.com and peercdn.com have taken.
If we're talking specifically about live broadcast it'll look something like this:
Broadcaster sends the live video to a server.
The server saves the video (usually also transcodes it to all the relevant formats).
A metadata about this live stream is being created, compatible with HLS or HDS or MPEG_DASH
Consumers browse to the relevant live stream there the player gets the metadata and knows which chunks of the video to get next.
At the same time the consumer is being connected to other consumers (via WebRTC)
Then the player downloads the relevant chunk either directly from the server or from peers.
Following such a model can save up to ~90% of the server's bandwidth depending on bitrate of the live stream and the collaborative uplink of the viewers.
disclaimer: the author is working at Peer5
My masters is focused on the development of a hybrid cdn/p2p live streaming protocol using WebRTC. I've published my first results at http://bem.tv
Everything is open source and I'm seeking for contributors! :-)
The answer from Angel Genchev seems to be correct, however, there is a theoretical architecture, that allows low-latency broadcasting via WebRTC. Imagine B (broadcaster) streams to A1 (attendee 1). Then A2 (attendee 2) connects. Instead of streaming from B to A2, A1 starts streaming video being received from B to A2. If A1 disconnects then A2 starts receiving from B.
This architecture could work if there are no latencies and connection timeouts. So theoretically it is right, but not practically.
At the moment I am using server side solution.
I'm developing WebRTC broadcasting system using the Kurento Media Server. Kurento Supports several kinds of streaming protocol such as RTSP, WebRTC, HLS. It works as well in term of real-time and scaling.
Hence, Kurento doesn't support RTMP which is used in Youtube or Twitch now. One of the problem with me is the number of user concurrent with this.
Hope it help.
You are describing using WebRTC with a one-to-many requirement. WebRTC is designed for peer-to-peer streaming, however there are configurations that will let you benefit from the low latency of WebRTC while delivering video to many viewers.
The trick is to not tax the streaming client with every viewer and, like you mentioned, have a "relay" media server. You can build this yourself but honestly the best solution is often to use something like Wowza's WebRTC Streaming product.
To stream efficiently from a phone you can use Wowza's GoCoder SDK but in my experience a more advanced SDK like StreamGears works best.

how to stream video in direct connection between 2 clients

I want to stream video between 2 clients without passing it through the server
Each side sends real time video and also receives the other sides real time video
Is there an open source project that allows that?
Is there an API for that? I'm willing to pay
I want to create it in web app for mobile
Js, html, Ajax, websockets, css...
Thank you so much
VLC has a built in streaming server, as well as the gui it can be use via the comand line so could be scripted to suit your requirements
http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/
If you stream video directly from one client to another, then you have to understand between two networking models: client-to-server and peer-to-peer.
Server usually is static machine, with networking infrastructure, static ip and many things that allows accessibility by public.
With peer-to-peer you will face many problems, first of them is going through NAT when you creating socket for receiving. One of client might need to create socket to accept connection, and second to accept. They might do both simultaneously and stick to first connected.
Streaming video using web is not possible right now. There is only some beta development happening for Chrome and FireFox that will be publicly available not really soon.
As well you can't establish peer-to-peer connection using WebSockets.
So there is no way doing it using Web technologies.
You might want to have a look into native Mobile development, but there you will face problems with peer-to-peer connections as well.

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