SproutCore is said to be a JavaScript framework, so how to use it entirely without Ruby (actually with PHP or Java) on server side?
the build tools are written in ruby. Unless you want to roll your own I don't think you will be able to do things like build your client side code or use sc-server without ruby.
That said, the build tools are just a set of tools to help you develop. SC doesn't care what you have on the server. As long as your server returns json, you are good to go.
In fact, you can build a lot of your client side functionality without the server using fixtures
http://wiki.sproutcore.com/DataStore-Using+Fixtures
As hvgotcodes said, for development you'll need Ruby for the build tools. However, there are also some node.js tools available if you'd rather go that route. Furthermore, there is strong interest in making a build tools binary. This would allow SC development without having to install Ruby locally.
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I am working on an audio editing prototype. At the moment it is very simple, so it currently works as a Web App using JavaScript, HTML and CSS. This makes it possible to build as an Electron app, using Node.js to access the file system.
However, it makes heavy use of a Python program called Gentle, particularly the file align.py. I was wondering if it was possible to integrate this program somehow, given how frequently it is used.
I am not familiar with Python, but I have tried to work out if this can be done. I have read about child_process, python-shell and zerorpc. However, if possible, I do not want to force the user to install Python along with all the dependencies required for Gentle, as it is a difficult process with lots of room for error.
This is where I have become stuck. Ultimately I am looking for a way to use Gentle in a way which gives the appearance of it being part of the functionality as a single self-contained program, rather than butchered on with duct tape.
I realize Gentle includes the option for a REST API and a Python server, but I am more interested in using Gentle offline for faster functionality. I am also too broke to afford hosting.
I realize I am kind of working backwards, as the front-end normally comes after the back-end. If it is easier I can try to rewrite the code base in Python or a lower-level language, but I am trying to avoid this if possible.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
You can compile the Python program and include the resulting binary file into your Electron app and just run the binary via child_process. There are several ways to create executables from Python programs.
I have a little question here. Is there any way to build a server side JS without any use of external software. The reason for this is I am not able to install any software on the webspace but I wanted to experiment with realtime communication with the server and another user for a game or something like this.
If someone knows a way to establish something like this I would be quite happy to hear about it.
EDIT: Guys NOT NodeJS I AM NOT ALLOWED TO INSTALL ANY OTHER SOFTWARE!
https://cloud.google.com/nodejs/
or
https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/getting-started-with-nodejs#introduction
Those $15 a year webhosts typically don't allow you advanced customization. You need a better web hosting service that allows you CLI access to the server back end.
Running JavaScript on backend requires NodeJS runtime environment. Download it here https://nodejs.org/en/
Alternatively you can can configure an instance on Heroku and run your application there. But I would suggest to try the first one.
No. Javascript is a scripting language that was designed to work within the browser. There's no out of the box solution for you, as Javascript doesn't do server-side out of the box
However, Node.Js (and others) use Chrome's V8 engine to create an event-driven runtime environment which can allow writing server-side code with Javascript. That's your best option
I've got a simple Javascript application with a JSON API. Currently it runs in the client, but I'd like to move it from the client to the server. I am accustomed to learning new platforms, but in this case, my time is very limited - so I need to find the absolute simplest way possible.
This should be an easy task, but all I'm finding are solutions that are way overcomplicated:
The application is currently hosted on an extremely basic server. Node.js is not available, and I do not have install privileges. I'll eventually move it to a different server, but I really don't know what will be available there.
Many solutions require installing and running a standalone server. Really? Just to evaluate Javascript server-side and spit out some data?
I can run Python and PHP, and I see that it's possible to call Javascript from inside a Python or PHP script. However, the specific Python solution that I've found also require installing some Python support via pip or easy-install, so probably not an option. Also, this just feels overcomplicated, and I'm concerned about setting myself up for errors such as data conversion or permissions, etc.
Any help?
#Quentin is correct. There is no way to run javascript on a server without a javascript interpreter on the server.
Node.js is not only the most robust and widely used one, it's also the simplest. It is certainly possible to write your own javascript interpreter in PHP or Python, but that would be much more complicated than using Node.js.
Try really hard to find a server solution that allows you to use Node. In the end, it's going to save you (and any other stakeholders interested in the project) a lot of time and money.
I'm thinking of switching from PHP to using Node.js for developing my website. However, after researching Node.js for a little while, I can't seem to find exactly how to write a webpage with Node. I see that you use response.write() in Node to write html to your webpage, but that seems like a tedious thing to do, having your entire webpage as a string literal in your node file. How does web development work in Node as opposed to PHP's method of embedding the script into the HTML file?
You don't necessarily need to use response.write for each line of the view, you can use template engines as well. Search for "node.js template engines". At first impression it could seem tedious, but a similar approach prevents you from writing bad code.
PHP is a scripting language, node is a platform built on javascript.
To start web development using node.js, at first you have to understand what makes node different. Node gives you a way to make async calls to your database (which is a very simplified explanation), which you can then wrap in nice html and send (route) it to the browser. Alternatively, you can use something like angular.js in the frontend and use node.js to make db requests and response which is picked up by angular.js which updates the front html. If you like the idea of Single page app with async calls to fetch data, use node with angular. The tutorial that I like is https://scotch.io/tutorials/creating-a-single-page-todo-app-with-node-and-angular Hope this helps!
As others have answered, there exist templating engines for Node. With the current trends in web development, most modern web frameworks encourage the separation of code from the view (or the HTML you deliver to the client). For instance, Ruby's ERB templates, Jinja2 in Python, Handlebars/Jade for Node, and now a lot of modern PHP frameworks support this as well (Zend/Slim).
Another main difference is in how they work and how the languages are designed. PHP is an object oriented language supporting classes, inheritance, member visibility, interfaces, etc. Node.js is Javascript, so using prototypical inheritance.
The communities and ecosystems are different as well. Modern PHP tends to embrace the use of the Composer package manager, and that came after PEAR. However, npm is the official node package manager and it is deeply integrated with the platform. It is trivial to search for new packages and then use them in your projects.
The main architectural difference is that Node is also asynchronous by design, meaning it runs in a single thread and can potentially handle much more connections than PHP on systems with limited memory. When a request comes in to a PHP application, all the services/controllers and everything you defined have to be reinstatiated, you define PHP files and let Apache/Nginx process them. In Node you have a node process which you can proxy outside requests to.
Node.js Provides so many modules to do these things there is framework called express for node.js http://expressjs.com/ You can use a templating engine and create views. some examples are like ejs or jade. It doesnt have to be a string.
PHP is very strongly orientated towards creating web pages from a template, while Node.js is lower-level and broader in scope. A very rough overview of the differences between PHP and Node.js:
In PHP, you'd start a web server (almost certainly Apache), and then put a PHP file in a directory where you want to serve something from. You might use some fancy .htaccess directives to make URLs nicer, etc.
In Node.js you create a script, in which you use the http module to start a web server, and then you supply a callback for whenever a request is made to your server. Deciding which page to respond to the request with, etc, is all your work to do.
In PHP, things like routing a request to a particular PHP file, compression, decoding POST and GET variables, are all done by using Apache - your PHP files are sort of just like templates which Apache runs whenever a request is received. In Node.js, everything, from starting the server to sending HTML, is all done within your Node.js script - you have to do everything.
HTML isn't the first class citizen in Node.js that it is PHP. Generally, in Node.js you are just sending strings to the client. There are plenty of third party templating tools for Node.js - but they will be dependencies, not builtin functions.
I'm currently looking for a new web stack to build a hobby project on and would like it to be powered by JavaScript. I've had a quick look at Nitro, NarwhalJS etc. but was wondering if anyone had any solid recommendations or experience of an entire end-to-end javascript/json architecture ( jquery, middleware, standard libraries, db etc.) that they could share.
I'd prefer it to be a stack that you think is going to grow and is actively being looked after, documentation, community of nice like-minded individuals etc.
Thanks in advance.
Caveat: This answer somewhat fails to meet your basic requirement of personal experience with the resources listed. :-)
Off-the-cuff, there's Jaxer from Aptana and Chrome Server (which, despite the name, isn't related to Google Chrome AFAIK). Speaking of Chrome, though, there's an Apache CGI module that supports server-side scripting using JavaScript via Google's V8 engine, but that doesn't help you much with DB connectivity and such.
I'll also plug Java and Rhino, which I have used a bit. Via Rhino, you can compile JavaScript into Java bytecode (which, if you're using the Sun runtime, is JIT-compiled to machine code by Hotspot). That means you can run JavaScript in any servlet container (Tomcat, Resin, etc.). The joy here is that all of the huge array of goodies available for Java is instantly available to you via JavaScript -- so, MySQL connectors, image manipulation libraries, just about anything you can imagine. It's also amazingly easy to access those resources from JavaScript via Rhino. To give you an idea:
importPackage(java.io);
var f = new FileWriter("test.txt");
f.write("Testing 1 2 3");
f.close();
...and we've just written a file on the server via JavaScript, using Java's java.io.FileWriter class. You can also execute dynamic scripts at runtime via the javax.script package, which (for JavaScript) uses Rhino under the covers, although I'm not immediately coming up with a use case for doing that. :-)
For the database part of the stack:
Couchdb uses JSON and REST to store data in a document format. It uses PUT,DELETE for storage - I'm not sure how that would work with Javascript.
Helma should work well as a web server layer. It streamlines the use of Rhino as the web tier logic language.
I'm building a new service called PageForest that helps developers write totally client-side javascript programs, with PageForest providing storage and user management. Here's a sample page:
http://pfsamples.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SAMTable/index.html#mckoss_16
This is still a work in progress, but I'd love to get some feedback on the approach. You can find more samples at the pfsamples.googlecode.com site.
Check out JScript / Windows Scripting Host(wsh) and possibly HTA's. HTA's can actually be served via a webserver and act as a locally running application with extended rights. If you want pure web development you can use WSH and some IIS tweaking to process server requests on the back end with pure javascript code in a WSF file. WSH also provides access to the file system, ODBC compliant databases and a slew of other COM exposed applications via the ActiveX model. We're not talking blazing speed, but you're programming in javascript to begin with.
Here are some links on the "stack"
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms536496(VS.85).aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/15x4407c(VS.85).aspx
How about using
GWT-Spring-Hibernate-MYSql