I'm developing a site which has a flash background playing a small video loop scaled to fill the whole background. Over the top I have a number of HTML elements which are animated using javascript. The problem I am having is that (predominantly in FF, but also in others to a lesser degree) the flash seems to be causing my javascript animations to run rather jerky, and in some cases missing the animation altogether and just jumping to the end state.
Does anybody have any thoughts on how to make the 2 work together nicely?
Many thanks
Matt
You'll notice the same effect on BBC Iplayer - if you've played a few videos, then use the left and right scroller. The javascript animation is no longer smooth.
The is more noticeable in FF.
Chrome creates an entirely separate process for the flash, and therefore smoother, Safari is quite lightweight therefore smoother at times.
Bit of a bugger really - the only thing I can suggest is ensure your swf is optimised for CPU - if it contains lots of code, ensure you doing good memory management.
I had the same trouble once and I targeted FP10 - this offset a lot of visual work off the CPU (therefore the current process in the browser) and gave it to the GPU.
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Aside from this, you're pretty much at the mercy of how powerful the clients machine is.
Additional for my answer above:
Thanks Glycerine. Do you think there would be any performance improvements if it was compressed into an older format? Or even just a SWF? There is no audio, so it's just an animated background really. – - Matt Brailsford
I think a newer format would be better - if you can do FP10, then again, you'll be able to utilise the user GPU, if your working in CS3, best to go for FP9.5.
Ensure your stage objects are cached for bitmap if your using large vectors
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/bitmap_caching_print.html
This ensures any heavy animation (even animation we regard as light) will run smoother because there turned into pixel data as opposed to complicated vector information. Its a small fix but it may work.
Try and target the AS3 engine as well. Even if your not using code. I keep saying it runs better than the as2, as1 engine with arguments from people but I'm sure you'll find your favourite camp.
If you have very large images scaled down, use a smaller form factor by photoshoping then to a smaller size. This will not only improve rendering speeds, but also swf file size.
Try those.
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I'm at the early stage of building my own game framework, based on CreateJS (especially on the feature of exporting everything from Flash IDE). And found out that framerate of CreateJS (EaselJS) is much worse in Firefox than in Chrome/IE.
Also, it seems that the framerate of app (which might be changed using Ticker.setFPS) doens't matter. It looks like Firefox has some problems with rendering (I've tried to use 60fps and 30fps, and in both cases there were problems, it looks like FF doesn't have any stable time/logic of rendering).
I've tried to play with Ticker.timingMode (set it to Ticker.RAF_SYNCHED), but it didn't help either.
And also, I've found a lot of similar topics/questions in the Internet, and no any clear answer.
So, I was wondering, if there is any way to improve framerate/rendering in FF or we should work with it as it is now?
P.S.: It looks like the problem, probably, partially might be on the CreateJS side, because I've found few nice HTML5 games (as I know they don't use CreateJS) with smooth and nice animations in FF. Here an example: https://www.netent.com/games/slots/dazzle-me/
EaselJS just facilitates Canvas drawing operations and updates. I have built a number of applications and games without FireFox-specific performance issues using the CreateJS framework, so while there might be something that is happening through CreateJS causing the issue, it is more likely related to the content and how CreateJS is used.
Different browsers have different issues and performance differences, including how they handle vectors, large images on the GPU, etc. Without seeing code or an example, it is hard to pinpoint where the performance is going.
What have you tried so far to isolate the performance?
Do you have a lot of large images, text, or vector content?
Are you using filters or Shadows?
How are you determining that the framerate is not working? RAF_SYNCHED attempts to normalize the computer's RAF framerate (usually about 60 fps, but dependent on lots of things).
Do you have a lot of children (like particles) going on?
Are you checking mouse position or hitTesting often?
If you can provide more info, code samples, working demos, etc you can likely get a better diagnosis of what is happpening.
How can I control the rendering loop frame rate in KineticJS? The docs for Kinetic.Animation show a frame rate being passed to the render callback, and Kinetic.Tween seems to have no frame rate logic, but I don't see anyway to force, say, a 30fps when 60fps is possible.
Loads of context for the curious follows, but the question is that simple. If anyone reads on, other advice is welcome. If you already know the answer, don't waste your time reading on!
I'm developing a music app that combines some DOM-based GUI controls (current iteration using jQuery Mobile) and Canvas-based GUI controls (using KineticJS). The latter involve some animation. Because the animated elements are triggered by music playback, I'm using Kinetic.Tween to avoid the complexity of remembering how long a given note has been playing (which Kinetic.Animation would require doing).
This approach works great at 60fps in Chrome (on a fast machine) but is just slow enough on iOS 6.1 Safari (iPad 2) that manipulating controls while animations are happening gets a little janky. I'm not using WebGL (unless KineticJS or Chrome does this by default for canvas?), and that's not an option when I package for native UIWebView.
As I'm getting beyond prototype into wanting to make more committed tech decisions, I see the following options, in order of perceived goodness:
Figure out how to cap the frame rate. Because my animations heavily use alpha fades but do not involve motion, I believe I could get away with 20-30fps and look fine. Could also scale this up on faster devices.
Don't respond immediately to touch inputs, but add them to a queue which I poll at a constant interval and only use the freshest for things like touchmove. This has no impact on my non-interactive animated elements, but tackles the problem from the other direction, trying to reduce the load of user interaction. This would require making Kinetic controls static and manually tracking touch coordinates (not terrible effort if it actually helped).
Rewrite DOM-based GUI to canvas-based (KineticJS); rewrite WebAudio-based engine to HTML5 audio; leverage CocoonJS or Ejecta for GPU-acceleration. This means having to hand-code stuff like file choosers and nav menus and such (bad). Losing WebAudio is pretty serious as it eliminates features like DSP effects and very fine-grained, low-latency timing (which is working just fine on an iPad 2).
Rewrite the app to separate DOM based GUI and WebAudio from Canvas-based elements, leverage CocoonJS. I'm not sure if/how well this works out, but the fact that CocoonJS passes JavaScript code as strings between the 2 components makes me very skittish about how solid this idea is. It's probably doable, but best case I'm very tied to CocoonJS moving forwards. I don't like architecting this way, but maybe it's not as bad as it sounds?
Make animations less juicy. This is least good not because of its design impact but because, as it is, I'm only animating ~20 simple shapes at any time in my central view component, however they include transparency and span an area ~1000x300. Other components like sliders are similarly bare-bones. In other words, it's not very juicy right now.
Overcome severe allergy to Objective-C; forget about the browser, Android, and that other mobile OS. Have a fast app that performs natively and has shiny Apple-approved widgets. My biggest problem with this approach is not wanting to be stuck in Objective-C reality for years, skillset-wise. I just don't like it.
Buy an iPad 3 or later. Since I already am pretending Android doesn't exist (I don't have any devices to test), why not pretend no one still has iPad 2? I think this is passing the buck -- if I can get acceptable performance on iPad 2, I will feel confident about the app's performance as I add more features.
I may be overlooking options or otherwise naive about how to tackle this. Some would say what I'm trying to build is just silly. But it's working pretty well just not ready for prime time on the iPad 2.
Yes, you can control the Kinetic.Animation framerate
The Kinetic.Animation sends in a frame object which has a frame.time property.
That .time is a running timer that you can use to throttle your animation speed.
Here's an example that throttles the Kinetic.Animation: http://jsfiddle.net/m1erickson/Hn3cC/
var lastTime;
var frameDelay=1000;
var loop = new Kinetic.Animation(function(frame) {
var time = frame.time
if(!lastTime){lastTime=time;}
var elapsed = time-lastTime;
if(elapsed>=frameDelay){
// frameDelay has expired, so animate stuff now
// set lastTime for the next loop
lastTime=time;
}
}, layer);
loop.start();
Working from #markE's suggestions, I tried a few things and found a solution. It's ultimately not rocket science, but sharing what I figured out:
First, tried the hack of doubling Tween durations and targets, using a timer to stop them at 50%. This kinda sorta worked but was hard to get to look good and was pretty error prone in coding bogus targets like negative opacity or height or whatnot.
Second, having read the source to Tween and looked at docs again for Animation, decided I could locally use Animation instances instead of Tween instances, and allow the closure scope to hang onto the relevant note properties. Eventually got this working smoothly and finally realized a big Duh! which is that throttling the frame rate of several independently animating things does not in any way throttle the overall frame rate.
Lastly, decided to give my component a render() method that calls itself in a loop with requestAnimationFrame, exits immediately if called before my clamp time, and inside render() I update all objects in the Kinetic canvas and call layer.drawScene(). Because there is now only one animation, this drops frame rate to whatever I need and the app is fast on iPad 2 (looks exactly the same to my eyes too).
So Kinetic is still helping for its higher level canvas API, and so far my other control widgets are still easy code using Kinetic to handle user input and dragging, now performing much better as the big beast component is not eating up the CPU.
The short answer to my original question is that no, you can't lock the overall frame rate for very complex animations, but as Mark said, you can for anything that fits in a single Animation instance.
Note that I could have still used Animation without giving it a layer or explicitly calling any draw() methods, but since I'd still have to write all the logic to determine individual element's current visual state, there was no gain to doing this. What would be very useful would be if Tween could accept a parameter to not automatically render. This would simplify code like mine, as I could shorthand the animation on individual objects but still choose when to actually do the heavy lifting of rendering everything. Seeing how much this whole exercise gained in performance on the iPad 2, might be worth adding this option to the framework.
Is there any way to have two or more (preferably three) html5 < video > tags playing simultaneously and to be in perfect sync.
If I have let's say three tiles of one video and I want them to appear in browser as one big video. They need to be perfectly synchronized. Without even smallest visual/vertical hint that they are tiled.
Unfortunately I cannot use MediaController because it is not supported well enough.
I've tried some workouts, including canvases, but I still get visual differentiation. Has anyone had any similar problem/solution?
Disclaimer: I'm not a video guy, but here are some thoughts anyway.
If they need to be absolutely perfect...you are fighting several problems at once:
A device might not be powerful enough to acquire, synchronize and render 3 streams at once.
Even if #1 is solved, a device is never totally dedicated to your task. For example, it might pause for garbage collection between processing stream#1 and stream#2--resulting in dropped/unsynchronized frames.
So to give yourself the best chance at perfection, you should first merge your 3 videos into 1 vertical video in the studio (or using studio software).
Then you can use the extended clipping properties of canvas context.drawImage to break each single frame into 2-3 separate frames.
Additionally, buffer a few frames you acquire on the stream (this goes without saying!).
Use requestAnimationFrame (RAF) to control the drawing. RAF does a fairly good job of drawing frames when system resources are available and delaying frames when system resources are lacking.
Your result won't be perfect, but they will be synchronized. You will always have to make the decision whether to drop or delay frames when system resources are unavailable, but at least the frames you do present will be synchronized.
As far as I know it's currently impossible to play HTML5 video frame-by-frame, or seek to a frame accurate time-code. The nearest seek seems to be precise to roughly 1-second.
But you can still get pretty close using the some of the media frameworks:
Popcorn.js library made for synchronizing video with content.
mediagroup.js another library used to add support for mediagroup attributes on HTML5 media elements
The only feature that allowed that is named mediaGroup and it was removed from Chrome(apparently for not being popular enough). It's still present in WebKit. Relevant discussion here and here.
I think you can implement you own "mediagroup"-like tag using wasm though without DOM support it may be tricky.
Kind of a dilemma here. I am making a mobile version of a website, that has some interactive things more specifically I have this object in 3D that you can spin, I was using papervision in Flash but now I need to do this differently since there is no flash in mobile and I feel I am on thin ice.
I was thinking of exporting a 360 degree spin # 30 FPS using a PNG sequence with alpha channel, and then simply stiching them together into a sprite, then using this as a background in CSS and using background-position to then "simulate" an animation.
That or simply switch source image very rapidly, or somehow using "canvas" maybe, the thing is I am not sure if this will produce completely subpar performance? I mean switching the background-position or image source file # 30 FPS is that even possible? Would it be smooth, or is this simply something that is not feasible todo yet? Keep in mind it's just one single 3D object that needs to spin based on user input, not any other interactive elements.
So is sprite the way togo or canvas or something cool I havent even heard of? Thanks everyone in advance!
If I was making a mobile version of a website, I would strip it of most of the graphics and definitely of all the animated gifs, flash, etc. -- people using mobile phones for browsing the web are usually not after the multimedia experience -- they just need some information quickly and use a suboptimal device with poor bandwidth and even worse display and performance to get it. Don't make it even harder for them.
On the other hand, I found that using a background image with all the frames of animation in it, and manipulating the background-position from javascript is a fine way of making small animated sprites, for example for a simple javascript game for mobile phones :)
I am thinking as a challenge i should write a javascript based game. I want sound, images and input. A background to simulate a screen (like 640x480 with all my images in it) would be useful to separate the rest of the page from the 'game'. What should i look at?
Some things i would need
Framecontrol. A way to get the current time (or delta).
Image, displaying it and moving it. How do i display full image. Knowing pixel access may be cool.
Input A way to lock it in a box (like flash does) is cool.
Sound play simple sounds on demand (like when i get a hit). Several sounds at once would be great
Bottlenecks. What are things that will kill the CPU?
Restrictions. What cant i do? I hear i cant 'sleep' to wait. I must set a callback
Good or best pratice. What are good things i can do to either keep speed up or to lower glitch or compatibility problems.
I'm going to answer this looking at things from a mootools javascript perspective:
Framecontrol. A way to get the current time (or delta).
periodical()
Image, displaying it and moving it. How do i display full image.
setStyles()
Input A way to lock it in a box (like
flash does) is cool.
Plain old CSS
Sound play simple sounds on demand
(like when i get a hit).
Swiff, remote();
Bottlenecks. What are things that will
kill the CPU?
Internet Explorer.
Restrictions.
3D ... ?
What are good things i can do ... to
lower glitch or compatibility
problems.
Use a framework.
As a starting point, you may want to write it for Opera, as Opera provides a game canvas that will help you out.
For some examples of games in javascript:
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/3d-games-with-canvas-and-raycasting-part/
http://my.opera.com/WebApplications/blog/show.dml/200788
This one is interesting, it is demos of games using the canvas element.
http://www.canvasdemos.com/tag/games/
The best way to see where the problems are is to start writing the game, and then you will see what may be a problem. By looking at demos you can get an idea what performance issues they encountered. For example, a full 3D Doom game will have problems, but, as the first article above explains, there are some ways to optimize for javascript.
Once you get it working with Opera, then you can look at Firefox 3.5+ and Safari, as well as Chrome, and see if you can make some changes to have it work on those. How many platforms it works on depends on how much work you want to do for it. For a proof-of-concept pick the easiest browser for your task.
The best place to start would be to get very familiar with the <canvas> tag (it allows you to draw anything on screen)
This may help a lot:
http://benfirshman.com/projects/jsnes/
its an online NES emulator that renders everything on screen - the source is also available
Hope that helps =)