Ever since FF 52 was introduced, I am having the same lagging issues when executing on scroll events, especially when using the mouse wheel - the same thing occurs on IE Edge as well, but it was considered a minority, now with the addition of FF some kind of a solution has to be found.
I have created a fiddle online that replicates the problem - the issue is visible on FF and IE edge, while it works smoothly across webkit browsers.
Here is the simple scroll function I am using:
$('.scrollable').on('scroll', function() {
scrollY = $(this).scrollTop();
$(this).find('td:first-child span').attr('style', 'transform:translateY(' + -scrollY + 'px)');
})
https://jsfiddle.net/nfmLa7mn/3/
If you scroll with the mouse wheel the issue is more visible. It's a small lag but it's there. In more complex layouts the issue is more pronounced.
Am I the only one bothered by this? I haven't seen any other similar topics online. Is there any way I am not aware of that can fire scroll events in a better way? Or is there any other way around this issue?
Maybe this is due to the fact that Firefox handles scroll asynchronously.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Performance/Scroll-linked_effects
Often scrolling effects are implemented by listening for the scroll event and then updating elements on the page in some way (usually the CSS position or transform property.) [...]
These effects work well in browsers where the scrolling is done synchronously on the browser's main thread. However, most browsers now support some sort of asynchronous scrolling in order to provide a consistent 60 frames per second experience to the user. In the asynchronous scrolling model, the visual scroll position is updated in the compositor thread and is visible to the user before the scroll event is updated in the DOM and fired on the main thread. This means that the effects implemented will lag a little bit behind what the user sees the scroll position to be. This can cause the effect to be laggy, janky, or jittery — in short, something we want to avoid.
In the following fiddle, there is significant jitter while scrolling. The jitter is noticed only in Safari on Mac, while Chrome and Firefox scrolls the page smoothly.
https://jsfiddle.net/saptarshi17/akxuLL9x/
The jitter is a result of applying parallax effect on the first paragraph. The parallax is implemented by dynamically calculating the top css property triggered by scroll events. I am noticing this on Mac OSX El Capitan, not sure about Windows.
So far, I tried:
Added a mousewheel event-listener in addition to scroll as per this accepted answer on SO.
Tried wrapping the css("top", ...) function call within requestAnimationFrame()
Changed div from relative to absolute to avoid costly reflows.
Added preserve3d property to "hardware accelerate" position calculation as per some comments somewhere on SO.
Since 2 and 3 haven't helped, I assume the core issue has much to do with Safari's scroll implementation and less about frame-rate optimizations. There is a delay Safari's predictive rendering and the subsequent handler call which offsets the position. This results in 2 renders causing the jitter. While I understand Safari's intention behind the first render which works in most cases, this seems to be wrong in cases when the developer wants to override positioning. Maybe there is a way to tell Safari to disable the predictive rendering.
I've been working on a slideshow script that uses CSS3 transitions, or jQuery's animate when they are unavailable. I've created a custom function to do the slide animations, which does so appropriately. Everything seemed to be working fine, but I've hit a major snag during testing.
For one reason or another, there is an large delay applying the jQuery CSS before and after the transition on large slideshows. For example, the slideshow in the link below is around 9900 pixels wide (container width, most of which is hidden). The container is maneuvered to display the appropriate slide, using CSS3 transition and transform properties. The delay occurs applying the CSS between lines 75 - 82 in the paste below. In particular, applying the 'transition' CSS causes the problem. Add the 'transition' CSS to the stylesheet (rather than applying it with JS), and delay disappears. This isn't really a solution however, because we only want to use CSS3 transitions on specific properties, that can vary (using 'all' in the stylesheet would transition some CSS that we don't want to animate, but change regularly).
Animation function:
http://pastebin.com/9wumQvrP
Slideshow Demo:
http://www.matthewruddy.com/demo/?p=2431
The real problem is with iOS, in which the slideshow (and even the browser sometimes) becomes completely un-usable. I can't pinpoint any errors, and have really exhausted my knowledge of debugging JS. I'm sure it is related to this section of the function after playing around a bit, and disabling CSS3 support within the plugin altogether removes the problem completely.
I'm completely stuck, and really appreciate any help anyone can give.
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I've tried applying the CSS with native Javascript rather than jQuery's .css function. Same results, no better performance. Also worth noting that this isn't happening at all in Firefox, and seems to only be a problem with Webkit browsers.
Anyone with a solution, would happy to make a donation towards a few beers! I really cannot figure this out!
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Ok, so been debugging and I can see that the slowdown is caused by the browser repaint cycle that is taking a very long time. Is there a better way to handle this that the way it is already doing? Positioning the element absolutely is a known way to reduce repaints, but that isn't really working because the slideshow is responsive. Absolutely positioning the slide images or the slides themselves causes it to collapse.
--- Third Edit ---
A day later, and I've made some progress. Adding 'transition: all 0s ease' to the elements stylesheet CSS has gotten rid of the repaint caused by adding the inline CSS transition property via the custom animation function mentioned in the original post. This causes a significant performance gain, especially when removing the inline CSS transition property when the transition itself has finished.
Good stuff! However, now there is still a slowdown when the inline CSS translate is being removed (that was used to create the hardware accelerated transition effect itself) after the transition, and the left positioning is being applied. When the two happen together, there is a slowdown.
Breaking them up into two separate tasks (the translate removed, then the left position added in a setTimeout with no time specified), again gets rid of the repaints = performance gain, and looks likes problem solved. But sometimes, the CSS transition property isn't get negated fast enough, and the translate removal gets animated. No good, and don't know where to look next to work around it.
I think the problem is you're loading HUGE images :)
They are too big for the container you have them in, so you scale them down, which is even more resource intensive.
Try resizing them.
First of all congrats for your debugging!
I have been working on the exact same stuff lately and found out that ios devices don't support a large number of images positionned in the same page. It causes crashes and the only solution I found was removing elements instead of just hiding them. The downside is that removing and appending elements causes lags so you have to do it cleverly, when your transitions are done. I thought the best way to go was keep 3 or 5 images in the DOM and replacing the rest with thumbnails of the images, resized to fit the original. When transitions are done, I'd just put the large images back into place...
Hope this helps you a bit on the ios problem at least...
After spending some time analysing your code TimeLine with Chrome Dev Tools, I believe there's some optimization you could do.
As far as I can tell, every single one of your 16 images gets fully repainted every time an animation is requested. This seems quite obvious to me, as there are 16 images in your example, and the Chrome Dev Tools reports 16 long "Paint" executions every time in hit "Next".
In my humble opinion, you should figure out a solution that considers only translating two images: the one you want to hide and the one you want to show. So, consider please, not moving the rest of the images and, instead, leaving them all side-by-side to the shown image.
One more thing, using scaled down images is probably making the paint cycles quite longer. Avoid them whenever you can.
Well, think I've managed to figure it out! Just so you know, original post links don't reflect the changes as I've done them on my localhost environment.
Absolutely positioning the slides container has fixed the problem that was occurring with repaint speeds after the transition had taken place (whilst applying CSS properties). Obviously taking them out of the DOM has done the trick, allowing painting to take place much more efficiently.
I originally didn't try this too much because I knew this would add a lot of work to the resizing functionality. I had originally intended to not resize at all in JS, and rely on percentages to do the dirty work. Absolutely positioning the container would cause the slideshow viewport to collapse, rendering the native resizing useless.
However, I was already having problems with sub-pixel rendering in other browsers anyway, so I guess it was time to bite the bullet and rely on fixed pixel values. I then used JS to handle the resizing, using the window resize event. All seems good, however the slideshow was still collapsed due to the positioning. Assigning height values wasn't working correctly, so was at a bit of a loss.
Thankfully, I came across a neat little trick of setting the 'padding-top' of the slideshow viewport to a percentage value, dynamically calculated (desired slideshow height, set in the settings panel for this script, divided by desired width). As padding-top percentages are relative to the width of the element, this did a great job of providing responsive height and correcting the viewport again (no longer looking collapsed).
Here is some info on using padding-top for responsive elements that maintain aspect ratio. Great little trick: http://f6design.com/projects/responsive-aspect-ratio/
All is good now, and things are working well in iOS and webkit browsers. Everything is extremely quick and working as it should. Four days later, and it is finally figured out. Not happy about having to resort to JS for resizing, but I guess it was always going to happen due to percentage inconsistencies between browsers. Lots of decimals = no good!
Thanks to all who tried to point me in the right direction. Definitely got me thinking, and learned a lot of debugging skills that I can use again to make sure transitions are performing well. Thanks again!
not sure if this helps or not but I noticed you use 3d translation - I would think a simple 2d translation would be enough especially since your third parameter is 0 and might accelerate the issue, also go with fewer images as Armel L. suggested, don't have an iphone to test though... alternatively, this is a solution I used before css3 but should still work move the element containing the images using javascript by modifying left (?and top - the demo only moves left and right though? without the transition effects) and this way you can fine-tune the refresh rate which I think might account for the slowdown... you can go as low as 18 fps without anyone noticing, might even be good enough with just 16fps
I had this when I was first designing a magazine carousel-style page device.
If you have a series of images within a long "tray", even if they are not within the viewport, they will still take up ram, and you can effectively have five or so before leaks and nastiness begin to happen.
What I found works is "hiding" them ... But make sure they take up the physical space necessary.
What I also found worked was that one could make the 'previous' current and 'next' image are visible and move the tray, 'unhiding' them as they reach those three positions.
In my own system, I skipped the 'tray' holding e images and only had them at -100% width, 100% width and the current one a 0.
I never had much luck with the typical long-tray carousel with large scale background images... Especially with css3 acceleration.
I've got some Javascript that scrolls the page when the user drags an element near the edge of the window. There's a function something like this (simplified):
var scroll = function() {
var scrollTop = $myElement.scrollTop();
$myElement.scrollTop(scrollTop += delta);
setTimeout(scroll, 25);
}
I'm running into performance issues on older browsers, and I can somewhat mitigate them by reducing the resolution of my scroll() function from 25 (as seen above) to 100 or so.
How can I check if a browser is slower and reduce the resolution?
I would prefer to avoid user agent sniffing.
a human does not notice "slowness" up until 200-300ms, bump up your timer. no one is going to see that lag within reasonable bounds.
also, pushing the timer to be that fast IS the cause of the problem also. old broswer JS aren't that fast. try opening a task manager and see a spike on your CPU while you drag caused by that very fast timer.
Hi I was wondering if there is a limit to the number of divs that are allowed on a web page?
For example will Internet Explorer start to choke when it has to render a webpage with a thousand divs?
I know this is an old post, but I recently did a test that is directly related to this topic and I wanted to share my results.
I created a simple php script that spits out x number of 5px by 5px inline-block divs to test browser stability and page scroll-ability.
At 1000 divs on the page IE9, Firefox, and Chrome have no problem whatsoever and don't even seem to hiccup when scrolling.
At 10,000 divs IE9 and Chrome are able to scroll with a barely-noticeable delay, still within the 'acceptable' range in my book, however Firefox begins to lag more noticeably, to the point where you feel the scroll bar is jumping into position a half-second later than it should.
Interestingly, the performance difference between 10,000 divs and 100,000 is not as drastic as you'd imagine. IE9 and Chrome perform with only a barely perceptible delay in scrolling (with Chrome being the slightly smoother of the two), and Firefox has a delay that is very noticeable and would probably be considered annoying, but still functions reasonably well (i.e. it doesn't crash).
Now at 500,000 divs on the page it finally started to get interesting. IE9 Crashed and tried to restart itself (on the same page, of course) and crashed again, at which point I shut it down properly, restarted it, and tried one more time to make sure the same result would happen again. It did.
Chrome remained stable, but it became nearly impossible to scroll the page due to the extreme delay.
The big surprise was Firefox, the browser that was chunky at 100,000 divs is just about the same at 500,00 divs ... scrolling is not smooth, but it is way, way better than Chrome.
Amazingly, the results were pretty much the same for 1,000,000 divs on a page! Firefox handled them without crashing and remained scrollable though 'chunky'. IE9 crashed. And Chrome was able to load the page but became so slow that it was virtually unusable.
I know this isn't exactly a scientific study, but I figured it might be interesting to someone else besides myself.
Tests were performed on a Dell workstation with Dual-Xeon processors and 4 gigs of ram, running Windows 7.
There are two things to consider. Memory is one, where DOM nodes take up a huge amount of space. The other is CPU time needed to re-render all of these nodes when something changes. The threshold of smooth rendering depends on the engine used. In my experience, IE falls far behind, starting to choke after several hundred. Firefox can take several thousand, and it's about the same (and a little better) for WebKit browsers like Chrome.